Two family lines — Krumsick and Hutsey on one side, Kaiser and Butler on the other — joined by Zach and Rachel’s marriage in 2016. Tap any person for their profile: birth and death places, work, interests, and links to their obituary and records where those were found. Every profile also carries a Where they lived map — the places of their life in order, pinned — and, for the families who came over from Europe, a photograph of the hometown they left: Königslutter and Helmstedt in Germany, Hamburg the port they sailed from, Büches in Hessen, and Saratov on the Volga. This is a living record, kept for the generations after Jackson and Luke — so the life details matter as much as the dates: where people lived, what they did, and what they loved.
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Still open: Jamie’s mother was identified on Nov 5, 2026 as Evelyn J. Layton, later Weigle (see her card) — what remains open on that side is a marriage record for her and Jim Butler; her parents were found in the 1950 Wichita census (Raymond J. and Frances E. Layton) and are added flagged, their full names still member-tree only. Henry & Anna Kaiser’s and John & Susie Moss’s dates and birthplaces weren’t found online. Raymond Young is documented only by his wife’s obituary, and Otis & Flora Brewer are names only. The Hutsey line stops at Paul Hutsey (b. 1842), with his part of Austria unidentified — the Gottscheer idea was tested in Nov 2026 and is not supported (see the Austria & Ireland note below). Owen Kelly’s and Bridget Gormley’s Irish counties are likewise unidentified, and no public record of either of them was found at all. Bob Krumsick’s birthplace is settled as Kansas City, Missouri — the 1950 census sheet (birthplace first written Kansas, crossed out, “Mo” written in), his Social Security applications index, and the Purvis tree all agree — and the full Morning Sun obituary text, requested by interlibrary loan (transaction 1469256), remains the final check under the family’s ruling. On the Gessler side, Nicholas Jr.’s mother is named — Tina Hochstatter, confirmed as Sr.’s wife by her 1904 marriage record and carried as Jr.’s mother as a strong inference, flagged on her card — and his birth date is Feb 6, 1912; the family’s European origin beyond Matthew Gessler’s 1866 Hamburg departure is still unproven. The Krumsick line now runs two generations beyond August (b. 1768) — to Johann Heinrich Krumsiek (d. 1736) — on member-tree sourcing only, flagged on every card it touches; the Archion scoping note below sets out the record route that could prove or kill those generations.
Krumsick side — deep-roots research Nov 4, 2026: built from obituaries and funeral-home pages (Morning Sun via Legacy, Cozine, Dengel, Dignity Memorial, Tribute Archive), the Kansas Obituary Archive, Miami County newspaper indexes (KSGenWeb), the National Park Service, the Pittsburg Public Library and Kansas Historical Society catalogs, Archion, and surname references. Findings folded in: Kevin’s full obituary profile (career, Harley trips, Table Rock Lake, St. John Paul II founding membership); Geri’s parents identified as Nicholas Joseph Gessler, the Wichita pharmacist behind Gessler Drug Stores, and Renee (Prosser) Gessler; William M. Krumsick of Paola identified in county and bank records (medium confidence — initials, place, and dates); Regina’s sister Frances Lane and brother Paul Hutsey profiled from their family’s obituaries. No direct photo files could be verified for anyone on this side — the linked obituary pages (Kevin’s Legacy page, Herb’s, Tip’s, Jack’s, Donald’s) are the pages where public portraits appear. Confirmed dead-ends, stated on the cards: the Hiser and Harris lines behind Lela, Herbert Smith’s and Catherine Burns’s parents, Owen Kelly’s and Bridget Gormley’s Irish origins, and Martin Krumsick’s German records, which sit in paywalled, unindexed Archion church books.
Rachel’s side — researched Nov 4, 2026: built from obituaries and funeral-home pages (Hillsboro Star-Journal, Miles Funeral Service, Shelley, Headley, Mountain View, Dignity Memorial), the Winfield Courier, Southwestern College publications, and the Volga German Institute. The spelling is settled: it is Page Butler, not Paige, in every primary source. Find a Grave blocked direct access during the research, so memorials confirmed through its indexed search results and the PeopleLegacy mirror are linked that way. Every photo in the tree is a saved file, viewable on the person’s card here: Vivian Young’s Courier birthday portrait and the Courier’s photo of Stephen & Page Butler performing were downloaded and embedded Nov 4, 2026 — the remaining links on this side are source credits only.
European roots — researched Nov 4, 2026: a dedicated pass through European and Volga German sources (volgagermans.org, the Volga German Institute, AHSGR, Archion, Wichita State’s Tihen Notes, and the children’s obituaries). Krumsick: the European end dead-ends in public web sources — no indexed record of Martin’s 1805 Helmstedt baptism, of August’s parents, or of the Gittermann and Neuholz families exists online; the records sit in the St. Stephani registers at the Braunschweig church archive (Archion, paywalled and not name-indexed), and the 1878 Paola newspaper item naming a Martin Krumsick is confirmed to exist, with his identity unproven. The surname itself is a variant of Krumsiek — “crooked stream / wet lowland” — from Westphalia / Lower Saxony. Kaiser & Dick: Neu-Messer was founded in 1863 as a daughter colony of Messer (1766), and Messer’s Kaiser founding family is documented back to Heinrich Peter Kaÿser, baptized 1715 at Büches, Hessen, who reached Messer in 1767 aboard the Love & Unity — but the chain from him to Henry H. Kaiser of Durham is not yet shown, and identifying Henry or Anna in Neu-Messer needs AHSGR’s full 1897 census translation (the free index gives only line numbers). The Dick line is murkier still: Messer’s founders include Dickmann, not Dick, and the link is unproven. Gessler: Nicholas Jr. (1912–1974) is now fully profiled — Woodward birth, the 1938 first drug store at Douglas & Oliver, chairman of Gessler Drug — his father Nicholas Sr. is named, all eight children are accounted for, and his wife Renee’s parents, Warren Charles Prosser and Alice Josephine Joyce of Silverton/Durango, Colorado, are identified. The Gesslers’ own European origin is not proven: the name is South German (a variant of Gässler). Update (Nov 5, 2026): the Winfield, Kansas, Gessler cluster turned out to be Nicholas Sr.’s own family — his parents, Matthew Gessler and Elisabeth Theiss, and his eleven siblings were added from Robin’s member-tree survey, flagged as family-tree sourced, with Matthew’s birthplace (Ravensburg vs. Niedersweiler) still in conflict.
Austria & Ireland — deep pass Nov 4, 2026: a dedicated search of European-facing sources for the two lines the earlier passes could not move, with every item drawn from web indexes and page reads (no sign-ins; account-only databases are named as next steps, not used). Hutsey / Plutnik: no passenger list, census entry, naturalisation record, grave, or obituary for Paul Sr. or Francis exists in any public web source searched, under any spelling (Hatzey, Hutsey, Hutzey, Hutey). The Gottscheer hypothesis was tested against the Gottscheer Heritage & Genealogy Association’s surname list and is not supported — neither Hutsey/Hutze nor Plutnik appears in it (the list covers 1890–1941 and omits many pre-1890 church-record surnames, so it is absence of evidence, not proof of absence). The strongest name evidence points to German-speaking Austria: Hutze, an occupational name for a hatter, concentrated today in Carinthia. Plutnik has no authoritative etymology at all and must not be merged with Plotnik (“carpenter”) or Putnik (“traveller”). Francis’s life after 1904 is a blank in public sources. The single most valuable next record is Paul Sr.’s 1900 census entry at Frontenac; Francis’s 1943/44 Kansas death certificate could name both families’ origins, and once a village is known, Matricula’s free Austrian/Slovenian church registers become searchable. Context, kept as context only: Frontenac’s first Slovenes arrived in 1866 from Lower Carniola and Styria, and southeast Kansas coal country was called the “Little Balkans” — the family’s town fits that pattern without proving their origin. Kelly / Gormley: no public record of Owen or Bridget was found at all — arrival, marriage place (Ireland or US), Pennsylvania locality, the move to Kansas, and even whether they died in Pennsylvania or Kansas are all unknown. Their Irish births are in the civil indexes (registration from 1864) but cannot be picked out among same-name entries without a US record naming parents or a specific place; Gormley’s Ulster concentration (Tyrone, Derry, Donegal) is a surname-level prior for Bridget only, Kelly gives no signal at all, and one tempting Tyrone candidate — Eugene Owen Kelly of Killeeshil — was examined and excluded as a different man. The keys, in order: either death certificate, the 1900 census, Owen’s naturalisation papers, and Margaret’s baptism, marriage record, or SS-5.
Ancestry session — Nov 4, 2026: Zach signed in on his World Explorer trial (14 days; renews Nov 18 at $39.99/month — it does not include Newspapers.com, so Bob's Morning Sun obituary still rides on the library microfilm request). His own “Krumsick Family Tree” there (7 people, created about 2016; hints tab: 0 waiting) held three photos, now embedded on the cards — George Jr.'s young-man portrait, Kevin & Geri's studio portrait, and George & Margaret's portrait; relatives' member-tree photos were downloaded in the same session and are embedded on the cards too, each credited to its source tree with the Ancestry link kept — the c. 1882 William & Agnes family group, the Kansas City Zoo family photo, portraits of Bob and of George Lemuel (plus his Paola gravestone, which dates his death Sep 4, 1969), Paul Hutsey's oval portrait, and Marvin Kaiser's portraits, wedding announcement, and shared gravestone. Biggest find: the Hutseys' 1900 census entry at Frontenac — Paul a baker with first papers filed, Frances newly shown as Bohemian-born, three boys at home, and Paul's own row arguing with itself on his arrival year (1887 indexed vs. “31 years in US”). Frances's death settles to 1944, buried Mount Carmel beside Paul; a daughter, Josephine Parkel, is new to the tree. Draft cards landed for Paul Jr. (WWI: Frontenac coal miner; his 1891 vs. 1892 birth year stays flagged), Henry H. Kaiser (pointing — as inference only — to a Henry Sr. and an Elizabeth at Durham), and Nicholas Gessler Sr. (born 1873; nearest relative Elizabeth Gessler of Winfield); Nicholas Jr.'s claimed Navy service remains unconfirmed by his draft registration card. William Krumsick's immigration settles to 1865 from Brunswick, and Agnes Riley's 1874 Miami County marriage record was found — with a flagged conflict: an 1885 census already shows a wife Lena. Margaret Smith's dates conflict between Zach's Ancestry tree (1907–1992) and the working tree (1910–1981); both are kept. Pennsylvania death certificates for Owen Kelly and Bridget Gormley came up empty (all 27 Owen Kellys scanned), but a strong unconfirmed 1900 candidate household surfaced at South Bethlehem, PA. Still open after the session: Owen's and Bridget's linking record, Henry Sr.'s censuses and passenger record, Anna Dick's records, Paul Sr.'s naturalization file (the census says “Papers”; the index says nothing), and Bob's obituary text.
Leaf-hint pass — Nov 4, 2026 (evening): the little leaves next to each name on Zach's Ancestry tree — not the Hints tab page, which misleadingly reads 0. 157 hints across the 7 people in that tree: 123 accepted, 32 left pending (unsure items plus duplicates, per the family's don't-refuse rule), and 2 ignored before that rule was set. Geri has no leaf at all on Ancestry. Folded into the tree here: 13 photos of Margaret (Smith) Krumsick, all saved as files and embedded on her card — baby portraits at 4 and 6 months, two distinct age-2 portraits (1912), Margaret with her horse Duke, Margaret holding baby Jeanne at the Colorado homestead (1933), the 1941 family group (also on George's, Bob's, Jeanne's, Joanne's, and Karl's cards), and an older portrait; alternate scans were saved as files too. New facts, mostly via the Barta / Krumsick Family Tree and censuses (member-tree sourcing, labelled as such on the cards): Herbert John Smith's and Catherine “Kate” Burns's full dates and places, their Nov 24, 1909 marriage at Paola (Holy Trinity Church parsonage), Margaret's four siblings — Dorothy Ann, Herbert James, Mary Catherine, and Robert Edward Smith — all four newly added, taking the tree to 102 people, full dates and places for Jeanne, Joanne, and Karl, Margaret's 1930 job as a stenographer at a steam railway office in Osawatomie, and a new lead in that household: Mary Burns, age 76, likely Catherine's mother. Conflicts kept, not smoothed: Margaret's marriage place (Iola in George's obituary vs. Osawatomie in Margaret's obituary and the Barta tree), and Catherine's birthplace (North Dakota in 1920 vs. Minnesota in 1930 and the Barta tree). Kevin's Ancestry entry was already correct (Dec 22, 1954, Frontenac – Mar 13, 2017, Kansas City) — no fix needed — and Ancestry gives Geri's full name as Geraldine Elizabeth Gessler Krumsick, b. 1956, now on her card. One cleanup note only: a duplicate bare “Marriage 1953” fact sits next to “Marriage 1953 Frontenac” on Regina's Ancestry entry.
Ancestry build-up — first sitting, Nov 5, 2026:20 people added to the Ancestry tree — George & Margaret’s other five children (Jeanne, Joanne, Karl, Herb, and baby Joseph), George Jr.’s twin Karl Michael, George Lemuel & Lela, William (his birthplace now carried more exactly as Königslutter, Brunswick), Margaret’s parents and her four siblings, and Regina’s five Hutsey siblings; George & Margaret’s marriage entered as Osawatomie, and a duplicate bare marriage fact on Regina’s entry was cleaned up. Brought back here: six build-up photos, saved as files and embedded — George & Lela’s 1907 Miami County marriage register page (a primary record naming both sets of parents: W. M. Krumsick & Agnes Riley; M. W. Hiser & Lucy Harris), George Lemuel at work in a creamery, a second hat portrait, Lela & George with their twin sons, the Barta family group, and a group of eight men that came over with no names recorded — kept unidentified on George Lemuel’s card, not guessed. The register also adds one person here: Nellie (Hiser) Ullam, Lela’s sister, married the same day on the same page — 103 people in the tree now. One item waited on Zach’s call, and he has now made it (Nov 5, 2026): Agnes Riley is recorded as George Lemuel’s mother. Her dates match (b. May 23, 1849; d. Oct 31, 1887; m. William in Miami County, 1874), she was alive when George Lemuel was born in Dec 1882, the 1907 register above independently names her as George’s mother, and the third build-up sitting found the record that untangles Lena: a Kansas County Marriage Record showing William married Lena Rohrbacker on Mar 25, 1890 — three years after Agnes died — so Lena was a real second wife and George Lemuel’s stepmother, not his mother. The one leftover oddity stays flagged on William’s and Agnes’s cards: the March 1885 Kansas census already shows a wife “Lena” in William’s Paola household, two years before Agnes’s recorded death.
Ancestry build-up — final sittings, Nov 5, 2026: William’s and Jeanne’s hint pages fully worked (38 accepts between them), Dorothy Ann Smith’s pass finished, and the queued downloads brought back and embedded as files: William’s 1889 Paola portrait, his 1934 obituary, his gravestone, and Jeanne’s Colorado delayed birth certificate. William’s immigration is solved: the Hamburg Passenger Lists name “W.m Krumsieck,” 14, of Königslutter, who sailed alone in steerage on the Bavaria on Oct 28, 1865, bound for New York — matching the 1865 year in the censuses and his obituary’s own account (confirmed at 14; then St. Louis, and Washington, Missouri, with his sister Mrs. John Busch at the Busch brewery; the 1870 census agrees). The obituary fills in the Paola life — the 320-acre homestead four miles northeast of town where he died on Jan 31, 1934, county commissioner for eight years, Citizens State Bank president for 17 and chairman thereafter, a charter member of Paola’s Christian church — and names his children by both marriages, including a son William who died in infancy and Lena’s daughters Wilhelmena and Victoria, by then working at Kansas City hospitals. Agnes’s own trail was filled in from her records (Porter County, Indiana childhood; Paola by 1870; Wea in 1875; buried Paola Cemetery). Dorothy became a registered nurse in Kansas City and is buried at Independence. The people count is unchanged: 103, here and on Ancestry.
Rulings applied — Nov 5, 2026: Zach ruled on everything that was waiting. Added as established:1. William’s parents confirmed as Martin August Heinrich & Dorothee Henriette (Neuholz) Krumsick — his 1890 marriage record names them “August Krumsick & Henrietta Newholz” and his obituary calls them “Everhart and Harriett,” the shorter forms of the names this couple already carried here (one cousin tree, rebeccam62, dissents — noted on Martin’s card, not followed). 2. Agnes’s parents, Hugh William Riley & Martha Jane Riley, are now profiled; Martha’s maiden name, Price, comes only from cousin trees and is flagged as such. 3. Herbert John Smith’s parents, Edward “Edmund” Smith & Mary Elizabeth Folks, are entered — with their sourcing labelled honestly on their cards as member-tree only, the weakest sourcing in the tree. Added, flagged possible / not 100%:4. Jeanne’s marriages — Kenneth Leland Callaway Jr. (1953, Pittsburg), then Oreji “Don” Miller (1982) — her son Patrick Michael Callaway, and the further children named in her funeral record, all profiled and flagged; 5. Dorothy Ann Smith’s husband, Ralph Edward McBroome, flagged probable (1940 census + family photo caption); 6. Herbert James Smith’s wife Marjorie, cousin trees only; 7. Karl Michael’s wife and children — carried over from the Ancestry sitting notes and entered, flagged POSSIBLE: his wife Velma Berneta Barnett (m. Aug 25, 1929, Paola) and their sons Michael LaVerne (1936–1958) and Martin K. (1939–2017); Karl’s own death is Jul 21, 1962, at Paola, per Find a Grave; 8. Catherine Burns’s possible mother, Mary Burns of the 1930 and 1940 censuses — carried as a flagged lead on Catherine’s card, not entered as a parent, with the cousin tree’s fuller identity for her (“Mary Margaret Murphy”) recorded there as an unproven lead only, and a suggested father, Edward O’Byrne Burns, NOT added; her death place stays Osawatomie (a Kansas City hint was not adopted) and her birthplace stays Minnesota. The same pass filled in the Ancestry-entered details for the confirmed names: exact dates for Hugh & Martha Riley, Edward Smith & Mary Folks, and Ralph McBroome, and — from the Barta tree — Martin’s marriage (Helmstedt, Sep 17, 1829) and his own emigration, dying about 1872 at Washington, Missouri, where Dorothee is buried (IOOF Cemetery). The tree now holds 120 people.
County history pages — read in full Nov 5, 2026 (Zach’s “pages now”): the Krumsick pages of Family Histories and Stories of Miami County, Kansas (1987, Miami County Historical Society), pp. 233–234 — entries by Karl Krumsick (George Lemuel), Mildred Krumsick Russell (William and Joseph), and Berniece Krumsick (authorities page, 1983) — were read line by line and folded in. Eleven people added, taking the tree to 131: William’s second wife Lena (Rohrbacker) and their daughters Wilhelmina and Victoria — the held question is resolved, they are William & Lena’s — William & Agnes’s oldest son Joseph Eberhard and his wife Anna (Schaefer), their daughter Mary Anna (Barker), their son William, who died in infancy, and Joseph & Anna’s four children — including George William, whose wife Corinne identifies him as the “George W.” of the Kansas City hint records. New life detail on the cards: the 320-acre homestead had a name — the Shady Brook Farm; Agnes died of typhoid fever in the 1887 epidemic, alongside Riley relatives (the book’s two entries count the Riley losses differently, and both wordings are kept on her card); William came to Miami County in 1870 to work for Hugh Riley, which is how he met Agnes; the 1805 generation went by the called name Eberhard, and William himself went by Martin; George Lemuel’s creamery stood at 117 West Wea, Paola, he retired as a nurse’s aide at the Osawatomie State Hospital with a state plaque, and the family lived most of their lives at 209 West Kaskaskia, Paola. Book date variants are flagged on the cards, with primary records governing: George Lemuel born Nov 9 in the book vs. Dec 9 in his draft card, SSDI, and marriage register; Lela Apr 4 vs. Apr 19; the twins Oct 24 vs. Oct 23. The book does not explain the 1885 census “Lena” household, and it names no German generation beyond Eberhard (b. 1805) — which is what the Archion note below is about.
Going further back — the Archion pass, scoped Nov 5, 2026 (Zach approved both halves):Where the line stops today: August Eberhard Arnold Krumsick (1768–1847), Zach’s 5x great-grandfather, is the earliest named Krumsick, and he rests on the shared FamilySearch tree alone; the 1987 county history names nobody in Germany beyond his son Eberhard (Martin, b. 1805). The plan was to climb one register entry at a time: Martin’s 1805 baptism at St. Stephani, Helmstedt, would name his parents in the register’s own hand; August’s baptism (about 1768) would name his; Dorothee’s baptism (about 1812) and the couple’s 1829 marriage sit in the same Helmstedt books, and William’s confirmation is in Königslutter’s Lutheran registers. What the scoping found — the honest limit: Archion (the Braunschweig church archive, Landeskirchliches Archiv, Wolfenbüttel) has the Helmstedt St. Stephani and St. Marienberg registers digitized only from 1815 onward, and Königslutter’s town registers are not listed on Archion at all — so Eberhard’s 1805 baptism, Dorothee’s, August’s, and everything from the 1600s–1700s is not on Archion, and no pass was bought for that target. (Prices, recorded for the record: 1 month €19.90 — auto-expiring, the cheapest — 3 months €52.20, 1 year €178.80; a pass could still serve post-1815 items such as the 1829 Helmstedt marriage.) The routes that remain for the 1805 baptism and beyond: the FamilySearch catalog’s Helmstedt and Königslutter church-book films — many viewable in-branch at a FamilySearch affiliate library, and Johnson County Library is one — and a written inquiry to the Wolfenbüttel archive, which holds the pre-1815 originals. Update (Nov 5, 2026): two generations beyond August are now carried — Heinrich Julius Elias Krumsiek and his father Johann Heinrich — but on member-tree sourcing only, flagged on their cards; a register entry remains the thing that could prove or kill them, and the written inquiry to the Wolfenbüttel archive is still pending. Archion itself: archion.de.
Places & hometown views — added Nov 5, 2026, at Zach’s request: every profile now opens with a Where they lived section — an interactive map with the places of that person’s life pinned in order, the same places listed beneath it (each with an “Open in maps” link, so the list still works with no connection), and, for the families who came over from Europe, a saved photograph of the hometown they left. William’s journey is the full one: Königslutter (born 1850) → Hamburg (sailed Oct 28, 1865) → New York / Castle Garden → St. Louis → Washington, Missouri → Paola, with photographs of Königslutter’s old-town square and Hamburg’s harbour on his card. Martin, August, and Maria carry Helmstedt’s market square; the Kaÿser founders carry Büches/Büdingen and Saratov on the Volga (captioned honestly — Saratov is the colonies’ provincial city, not the colony village). Henry H. and Anna Kaiser show Saratov as their documented community origin with the link unproven, exactly as their cards already said. Honest gaps are kept as gaps: Paul Hutsey’s Austria and Frances’s Bohemia are named only at country level in every record found, and Owen Kelly’s and Bridget Gormley’s Irish counties are unidentified — so their maps list the country with no pin and no hometown photograph, rather than inventing a town. Town photographs are real photos of the towns today, saved as files in the tree (Königslutter via ngo-online.de, Helmstedt via myloview, Hamburg a public-domain Piqsels photo, Büdingen via the town history circle, Saratov via biletbayi); pins were resolved town-by-town at build time, and a place the records name only loosely is listed, never pinned by guess.
Ancestry build-up folded in — Nov 5, 2026: the last sittings of the trial-window build-up brought the tree to 202 people. Settled: Bob Krumsick’s birthplace — Kansas City, Missouri (1950 census sheet, pictured on his card; Social Security index; Purvis tree), with the interlibrary-loan obituary text (transaction 1469256) still the final check. Maria Gittermann’s wrong Magdeburg baptism is off her card, with the rejected match explained there and kept in the odd-records file below. Added: two German generations above August (Johann Heinrich Krumsiek & Anna Gerstenberg; Heinrich Julius Elias Krumsiek) and the Gittermann parents — all member-tree sourced and flagged; August & Maria’s daughter Johanne Louise Christiane, whose 1824 Gröningen marriage register page is pictured on her card; all nine of Martin & Dorothee’s children, with August the Civil War surgeon standing as his own person — the Andersonville story labelled on his card as family tradition contradicted by both prisoner collections searched; Lena’s parents, Henry Rohrbacker & Elizabeth Durst, record-backed by the 1890 marriage register page pictured on William’s and Lena’s cards; Paul John Hutsey’s dates and his five children; the whole Gessler generation — Matthew Gessler & Elisabeth Theiss and their twelve children — plus the Hochstatter family (Tina, Nicholas Jr.’s mother, confirmed as Sr.’s wife by her 1904 Missouri marriage record; her parents and the verified siblings), Nicholas Jr.’s three sisters, the Prosser and Joyce lines behind Renee, and fills for Jack, Jim, Bill, and Bob Gessler — with Beverly placed as Bob’s wife, resolving the ambiguity her old card carried; Rachel’s grandmother Evelyn J. Weigle, née Layton, with her second husband Jerry Weigle; and Harry Dean Moss, renamed from the census’s lone “Henry.” One earlier ruling was superseded by a record: Catherine (Burns) Smith’s death place now follows her Missouri death certificate to Kansas City, and her mother is carried as Mary Murphy, the name the certificate gives; her father stays unentered — the certificate’s “Edward A. Burns” conflicts with the held “Edward O’Byrne Burns” (odd records, below). Barbara Joanne’s 1952 Marian yearbook pages are embedded on her card. Held items — the Posen dossier, an unplaced Washington, Missouri postmaster named Augustus Krumsick, the rejected Gattermann baptism, a Calvörde Gittermann candidate, and Evelyn’s hint-only parents — stay in the odd-records file below, not in the tree.
Odd records — kept on file, not added (click to open)
Zach’s ruling (Nov 5, 2026): the hints below don’t have enough evidence to enter the tree — some look like other trees’ errors, some like garbled index entries — but they’re kept here to look at, in case more turns up. Each one still sits pending on that person’s hints page in Zach’s Ancestry tree. Tap a name to open their card here.
— a cousin tree (Purvis) names his father as “Karl Krumsick” — his brother. Birth, death, mother, and child all match Bob, so it reads as that tree’s error.
— a 1947 St. Mary’s-Colgan yearbook entry, age 16 (implies born about 1931, against her Nov 18, 1932 birth), whose portrait appears to be a boy in a suit and tie. A clearly matching age-15 1947 entry was accepted separately.
— a Newspapers.com Marriage Index item for “Mrs George Krumsick,” Wichita, spouse “Mr Krumsick,” child Herbert, no date — it reads as an item about her son Herbert’s marriage, not Margaret’s own.
— the Purvis tree gives his parents as Ernst Friedrich Krumsick & Catharina Sophie Schutt, against George Lemuel & Lela Hiser everywhere else. Two strays came with him: a 1922 “Mrs. Martin Krumsick” Paola item (likely Lena, William’s second wife — George was 14) and a garbled “Martin” obituary-index entry (b. about 1907, d. about 1963, Wichita). Items for a George W. Krumsick of Kansas City (wife Corinne) were also offered under his name — and those are now identified (Nov 5, 2026): George William was Joseph Eberhard’s son (m. Corinne Mattingly, per the 1987 county history) and is profiled in the Krumsick line above, so his records are accounted for rather than odd.
— a portrait posted under his exact name and dates but titled “maybe” by its own poster (clcantrell88): an older man, white hair and mustache, suit and bow tie — could be another elderly Krumsick relative. Also his: a vague Newspapers.com Marriage Index item — “Mr W. M Krumsick,” Paola Township, spouse “Mrs Krumsick,” child “Mr J E Krumsick,” no date — possibly his son Joseph E.’s marriage rather than William’s; and a “Friedrich Krumsiek” 1867 passenger list offered for him — a different first name.
— a Public Records “Dolly M Smith” (Osawatomie, b. Oct 9, 1912 — ten days off her Sep 29, 1912) and a Missouri newspaper item, “Doris Ann inis McBroom” (East Prairie, MO, 1953) — a garbled name, far from her Kansas City life.
— six yearbook hints (1969–1971) for a female “Miss/MS Krumsiek” of Raytown — not a match.
— two “Nancy Riley” Indiana items offered for Agnes — a different person.
— the POSEN DOSSIER, held (Nov 5, 2026): a Paul Emil Richard “Hutsche / Gutsche,” born Jan 21, 1842, at Posen/Glogau to Johann Carl Hutsche & Josephine Karpinska — a tempting match for Paul Sr.’s January 1842 birth, but the same child is buried at Glogau on Jun 6, 1843, which disproves the match. Paul Sr. keeps NO parents in this tree; the live routes remain his Girard, Kansas, naturalization file and Frances’s Kansas death certificate.
— the REJECTED Magdeburg baptism: Johanna Maria Catharina Gattermann, baptized Apr 17, 1766, in Magdeburg’s garrison congregation (Ancestry collection 61229, record 17103312) — a different child, wrong parents, wrong place; it sat on Maria’s Ancestry profile until the Nov 5, 2026 sitting removed it. Also held: Georg Christoph Gittermann (Calvörde, 1786) — an untested candidate for her family, nothing more.
— an Augustus Krumsick appointed postmaster at Washington, Missouri, on Dec 22, 1857: the right town and the right years for this family, but no record ties him to August (b. 1768) or to Martin’s household, so he is NOT added as a person.
— her father: her Missouri death certificate names “Edward A. Burns,” which conflicts with the held suggestion of an “Edward O’Byrne Burns.” Neither is entered as her father until a record settles it; her mother is carried as Mary Murphy, the name the same certificate gives.
— her parents, suggested by hints as Raymond John Layton and Frances Evelyn Sandefur: the 1950 Wichita census (read Nov 5, 2026) shows Raymond J. Layton and wife Frances E. with daughter Evelyn J., age 7 — ADDED as her parents, flagged: the census gives initials only, so the full names and the Sandefur maiden name remain member-tree sourced.
Duplicates — phone screenshots of photos already saved clean in this tree — aren’t listed here; they’re noise, not oddities.
The Gessler line, expanded Nov 4, 2026: Geri’s ancestors no longer sit in a list — the Gessler diagram above now carries her grandfather Nicholas Sr. (b. 1873, Woodward, Oklahoma; his WWI draft card names Elizabeth Gessler of Winfield as his nearest relative), her father Nicholas Jr. (the Wichita pharmacist who opened the first Gessler Drug at Douglas & Oliver in 1938, later chairman of Gessler Drug Co.; U.S. Navy in WWII), her mother Renee (Prosser) Gessler, and Renee’s parents — Warren Charles Prosser, a mining geologist of Silverton, Colorado, and Alice Josephine (Joyce) Prosser — with all eight Gessler children in their own generation row. Life details the family asked to keep — birthdates, places lived, jobs — are on each card and in each profile wherever a source gives them, for living relatives included.
FamilySearch shared tree — checked Nov 4, 2026: with the new account signed in, all four lookups were found — Robert (G76S-6XL), Regina (GL82-BPL), Kevin (G76S-34B), and George Jr. (LVNS-32N). The shared tree extends the Krumsick line back to 1760s Germany, names Margaret Smith’s parents, and gives Bob’s siblings their full names and dates. Conflicts are flagged on the cards rather than smoothed over: Bob’s birthplace (three versions), Kevin’s place of death, and the Hutsey/Hutzey spelling. Tree data is user-contributed — strong leads, not proof — and each card names its source.